ABOUT MY FAITH

Just published a post “About My Faith” in the “Matters That Move Me” section
http://www.janefonda.com/about-my-faith/

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  1. All I can say is, I love the way you think.

  2. I enjoyed reading your entry regarding: “About My Faith”. I have sent it to my daughter to read also.

    I am drawn to the picture of you and Carrie Fisher. I can’t get a grasp on what Carrie is expressing through her face. She is looking you directly in the eyes, but I am puzzled by her expression, there isn’t a hint from that moment in time, of what she is thinking. Her face doesn’t read joy, pleasure, disinterest, sadness, or anger; I just have no hint. What was the topic of your chat, if you may say? What do you think of the pic?

    I have enjoyed your blog. This is my first time to comment.

    Jan

  3. Do not stop to amaze me. When I was a child, my mother made me go to church as a teenager I was turned away because a political and not spiritual. And from that moment I began to question many of the things I was taught in church. Did not agree with not having to question God. I questioned, did not share many of the dictates of the church but, amazingly, my faith grew. Last year my mother was very serious and were 2 times 2 miracles save. Do not let anyone question my commitment to my faith teachings. Faith is not to go to church on Sundays. I feel really reflected in your experience. I had read some things about your “conversion” but instinctively I did not believe they were true. With love from Uruguay

  4. Jane, your thoughts on this matter are just profound. You never cease to amaze me. I especially love the part about the little old white lady in back. Priceless!
    B

  5. Wow. Your writing is so clear, eloquent, and moving. You summed up exactly what I could never quite articulate. There have been times when people have attacked me for not being religious. I’ve tried to explain that I’m spiritual. That I feel that it is not necessary to go to church or belong to an organized religion. That it’s something you strive to live not a place that you go to every Sunday (as though it’s just another chore to carry out). Other times, I’ve heard people proudly declare “I’m going to heaven” like it’s some kind of exclusive club. That to me defeats the whole purpose of spirituality (which is inclusive not alienating) and only makes people feel further apart from God.

    I’ve been a fortunate recipient of God’s grace and I’ve known others to have experienced it too. It was nothing sappy or dramatic. It was an insight or experience that I know I didn’t make happen all on my own. Sadly, I feel that some people use religion to justify their own fears, biases, and intolerance. It is used to bolster low self esteem and judge other people as lesser. My belief is that God wants us to be kind and compassionate. Otherwise what is the point?

    Thank you again for another terrific piece of writing. I can’t wait for your next book. You are an inspiration to everyone who wants to continue to grow and learn.

  6. First, ditto on Lynn’s comment. After reading about your faith experience, I can relate to what you are trying to convey which you say so very kindly, intelligently and diplomatically. Yes, after having been involved in a certain organized religion most of my life, I finally had realized that I’d lost the feeling of “spirit” and was “turned off” by so much dichotomy and “life and mind control” which was part of its teaching. And I am more convinced than ever that each person has the supreme privilege to find his/her way to God in the way that is best for him/her. We are all so on different levels that the right way for one is not for another. And we will all find our way to God at the right time and in the right way eventually, which is so wonderful. Thank goodness God is so patient and loving to us! I appreciate all your sincerely research into this subject and that ultimately you are true to yourself. As Shakespeare says: Unto thyself be true. And you are.

  7. The pathways to belief are always fascinating. I was raised rather dogmatically as an atheist and I never would have imagined that could change. Then more than 20 years ago, I began conducting writing workshops in a women’s prison and without understanding why, I found myself searching for something that would balance out the negativity of that environment (though the work with the women was glorious).

    I thought perhaps I’d look into massage or something on that order as I have always felt rather empowered through my hands. I wanted to keep an open mind about where my search would lead so that it would be a good fit for my needs and strengths. The one thing I did know for sure was that it wouldn’t involve laying on of hands, because that was all nonsense. So of course, that’s where I ended up. I could have shocked my mother more only if I had wanted to become a rabbi.

    I ended up studying with a very charismatic woman who was knowledgeable in many different belief and healing systems (Native American, Egyptian, Tibetan, Spiritualist, etc.). She was also a biblical scholar, was ordained (after all these years, I’ve forgotten the denomination:) and moderately conservative politically, all of which I found challenging, but obviously, much of what I needed to learn was how to deal with challenges to my belief systems and to remain open.

    If someone asks me point blank what religion I am, I usually reply, still, that I’m an atheist, probably out of habit. But I certainly have opened my life to experiencing the immaterial. I think of Jesus as a great healer and leave it at that. My beliefs are most certainly a rather eclectic mix, but it suits me and I don’t feel obliged to answer to anyone for them. All this from someone who used to have difficulty even saying the word spiritual.

  8. After reading your thoughts about Faith, I thought you might enjoy this video a friend sent me. I just love reading your blog. Thanks for sharing with us.

  9. Jane, I so feel the same way. It really fills me up when someone else is coming from a similar place. It gets lonely in the world with so many people missing the beauty within and without.
    The male and female part of the religiousity is also a big issue for me. There are no gender issues with the Oneness only love and light.
    Thank you for taking the time to share your inner life.
    May peace be always with you dear one.

  10. Reading your blog and this entry, what emanates from you is love and goodwill – for me, that’s God or ‘Mind’s spirit.

    I was brought up in a secular Jewish home, have studied Judaism and Christianity, but lately (at 60), Zen Buddhism seems to be speaking to me in much the same way your faith speaks to you.

    Your posts are all very warm, touching and personal.

  11. Thank you for sharing and letting us know where your journey has taken you. It’s great that you now have a solid foundation of faith that enables you to do all that you do. I pray that you will continue to be a beacon of light and love to many others. Love and blessings…..

  12. Thank you so much for sharing your position on faith. When I returned to church at age 50 I was so scared I didn’t want anyone to know about it. I admire the fact that you did it knowing at any time tabloids would start commenting on what is certainly a very private matter.

    I now find myself a Christian who frequently feels uncomfortable in the company of others who profess Christianity. Your thoughts give me food for thought and you references will prove useful.

    Thank you again for your wonderful blog and the doors it opened for me. I will pray for your speedy recovery from surgery and for God’s blessings to fill you life.

  13. Here’s what I’ve learned! “Religion” robs us of our joy. . . Faith leads to a relationship of joy!”

    First, I have no problem with imaging God as my PAPA, but I had an awesome earthly dad & know in my soul that God is both – male & female. But personally, He’s my “PAPA”. . . so that said, let me continue!

    Faith is the game of coming to know Him. He pops into our lives in strange & mysterious ways – “drawing” us to seek further – however that may be for each of us individually.

    Then PAPA enters into an awesome delightful ‘game’ with us – called spiritual ‘hide n’ seek’. He appears & we move toward Him to see/learn more. Then He ‘romps’ off to hide from us in such a way that we are intrigued and want to follow. Just when we think we’ve lost the “scent”. . .He reappears & draws us closer again.

    But the real delight is that at some point He appears for longer periods of time so that we can get more intimately involved with Him. His “hiding” from us is simply the way to draw us further into an understanding & wisdom of His ways and of Him.

    I think that’s why many refer to it as a “dance”. It’s the delight of children playing “hide n’ seek” with the the “boss” of the universe!

    As my relationship with PAPA continues, I become more respectful of myself as a woman – not less. The “real” PAPA loves women/the feminine. If it were not so – He would never have brought us into being at all. For it was not good that man should be alone!

    Just my humble opinion and understanding!

    Keep growing Jane. . . don’t let religion – or any breed – choke off the ‘eternal game’ for at some point He will step from hiding and open His arms wide to receive and then the “dance” begins!

    Much love in your day!

    Linda

  14. I’m a Catholic Christian who loves what you wrote. Altho Catholic, I believe pretty much the same; my Catholicism gives me the strong platform to worship my God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, and I am thankful for and nurtured by the blessing of the Holy Eucharist. Catholics who have studied and read and who understand are on the same wave you and I are. Read Joan Chittister and other well-known Catholic sisters’ writings, and you will see. I haven’t read comments by others here, but I’ve never felt stifled by the Church, maybe becuz I didn’t convert to Catholicism until I was in my mid-50s (old enuf to want to explore my faith and the Church), many years post-Vatican 2, live in the rural Midwest, and have been fortunate to have with-it priests and friendly, open parishes.

    Thanks so much for your writing on your faith. I just read of your blog in this morning’s paper in an article about your knee surgery. So glad I found it. I’ve been an admirer of yours for years.

  15. Just a religous note. I am not a believer, nor do I feel the need of it. I was born into Judaism, and of course followed the lovely tenents of that until I no longer felt it met the needs of todays times. Many of the traditons are beautiful, and I taught them to my children,( none of whom practice any organized faith either. )
    I feel that religion is the cause of so many wars, and ,that it seems to create divisions among peoples.
    I believe in love, helping those less able to help them selves, supporting causes that I think are just, and doing what ever I can to be useful to promote peace.
    If the time came, and a counting of Jews was taken, I would stand with them all.

  16. Thanks Jane!

  17. Really love this article—catching up as I just found your blog. This very much mirrors my own journey even though I was baptized as a Christian as a child and took classes each week to be good catholic child and then willingly attended Mass once out on my own I still came upon the same questions as you did and found in my own heart the same truths as you have. Especially about Mary, women and sexuality. Have you read the Magdalen Manuscript? It is out of print but can be found online. It very much resonated with me and I feel it will with you too. And I don’t believe that Christianity today still 2,000 years later is at all what Jesus intended. I think this would make a great documentary or another book for you to write about and share because of your strong sense of self and unique perspective of coming to Christianity later in life. Peace be with you and thanks for sharing something so deeply personal. I have shared it with many and posted on my website.

  18. I will translate Jane’s comments:

    I got saved.
    I was persecuted for my faith.
    I FELL AWAY.

    Big Daddy
    Sept 2009

    Mark Chapter FOUR:

    Then Jesus said to them, “Don’t you understand this parable? How then will you understand any parable? The farmer sows the word….

    ….Others, like seed sown on rocky places, hear the word and at once receive it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away.

  19. I like Emily Dickinson’s take on belief. It’s meant to be mystical.

    “A Grant of the Divine –
    That Certain as it Comes –
    Withdraws — and leaves the dazzled Soul
    In her unfurnished Rooms” Emily Dickinson

    Hope is the thing with feathers. During meditation once, i heard a powerful voice that said, “Be Still”. My faith is like a butterfly, i think if i dissect it, it will fly away.

  20. To Jane,

    Their is one faith, one baptism, one hope
    and only one name under heaven whereby we
    must be saved and that name is Jesus Christ,
    see http://www.billwiese.com and http://www.marybaxter.com
    and http://www.lwf.org and http://www.bbn.org
    You will get supernatural understanding
    and a Grace and Mercy that we will
    never earn. God bless you all who
    shall read this post. Remember
    When God showed Mary Baxter Heaven
    and Hell he left an imprint upon
    her Soul, that to warn America,
    and the rest of the World that
    he is coming back soon for all
    of his blood washed Saint’s. It is
    very foolish to think that he never
    will come back or to think that
    we can somehow get into Heaven
    without him. He paid the ultimate
    price for our sin and he is the
    only reason why any of us will
    be in Heaven. We do well to take
    heed to his invitation in these
    last and final days.
    God Bless You all as you move
    with urgency and accept Jesus Christ
    into your heart and lives. By
    all means Tell the world, that
    he is coming Soon.

  21. I am not very far along my personal journey with my faith. Both my parents are/were ministers. One of which, you quoted in this blog post, the Rev. Forrest Church. He died later in 2009 after you posted this, but he was really, um…yeah there is no graceful way to put it..he was pretty “geeked-out” that you quoted him.

    Sent me this link a long-time ago, I just, you know…never read it. He was a funny guy, artfully flawed, but a wise one in some things.

    I enjoy reading about your journey. You obviously have placed an investment in time, resource, and plainly in priming the kiln for your wholeness. And I can respect that.

    I am remiss in that.

    I am often struck by the incongruent messages between that of the doctrine of Christianity & the raw teachings of wellness and wholeness in the teachings of Jesus. But that said, I am also at an impasse of mistrust. I don’t fully understand how I can truly trust a book(The Bible) so instrumentally scripted (King James)and oft-erroneously translated as “The Word” of even Jesus himself.

    How do I know Jesus, even the best bits I can relate to of, really said/did/taught that? And it’s not all just some moral shadow play literally scripted to form a better community in the eyes of the authors?

    I guess, as you have alluded, there is a real resonance in each of us. You can call it God, maybe it is. My father used to call it that. He also borrowed the line of: “Deeds before Creeds.” Doing what is right, real and whole, what makes sense fundamentally not because it is in church doctrine, but because it is in natural wellness of our selves and our loved ones. And as we increase our love, everyone.

    I don’t have a full grasp of it. My love, she fully believes in concepts such as the Rapture, and more theatrical versions of “the meaning of life.” And I know I disappoint her on some level, not believing in “something greater.” She loves me still though, mostly because I am lovable.

    Whatever I do believe in, it’s still unformed, and I just hope I am gifted with enough time in this lifetime to form it. Much in the way my father did before he died. I seriously doubt I will start sermonizing as he did, but since I will always share his love for the NY Mets, I am sure the depth of my love and misery will still reach divine bounds every September at least.

    This has been a comfort to read, and to share. And to respond to. I will keep resonating and try to find a tune that makes me feel is worth living, loving and ultimately as my father did, dying for.

    Thanks.

    • Frank Chirch, maybe you won’t sermonize but you write so well. You should write. Maybe you do. xx

  22. Um.. Maybe.. But this Frank Church is staying away from Religion & Politics and keeping firmly in the kitchen. Despite the fire, ego and knives, it’s still so much safer.

    But, Appreciated. All the best.

  23. Hi Jane, I’m so glad you’ve found a faith and trust in Jesus. I was an agnostic for many years until I felt the spirit working in my life. God has blessed me greatly, and I know that as you continue to grow, he will do the same for you.

    By the way, I’m enjoying your movies on TCM. Stay true to your faith as a Christian, because we have tough times ahead!

    Your sister in Christ,

    Janna

  24. Thank you Jane fo just being you. I was searching the word faith for a graduate class paper assignment and found your blog. Its awesome.

  25. Hi Jane! I’m glad you’re a Christian. I do hope you plug in a good healthy well balance church associating in sound doctrine. There are many false teachings out there. We as Christians are instructed to test or examine everything and everybody through the word of God to make it lines up with scripture. Acts 17:11, 1 Thessalonians 5:21, 2 Timothy 3:16, 1 John 4:1…Anyhow, I am praying for you, your family, especially your niece Bridget. May God richly bless you!

  26. Correction: * to make sure it lines up with scripture.

  27. I just read this for the first time and I feel as if you exactly described my feelings as a Christian that I have never been able to articulate. As a native Atlantan, huge fan and fellow “Christian”… thank you so much for sharing your perspective. I just watched Jane in Five Acts and I am just amazed. Thank you for always trying to make this world a better place.

  28. Hi Miss Jane,
    I see you like some writing from Forrest Church, he was a Unitarian minister. I would recommend to Google, Unitarian Universalist and check us out. I found my fellowship 3 yrs ago, as I was seeking out place I could go to grow spiritually and be around non judgemental people, with like minds. I belong to Unitarian Universalist fellowship of Wayne county- in Ohio

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